[Windows] Restore and enable IAccessibleEx implementation by loic-peron-inetum-public · Pull Request #175406 · flutter/flutter

loic-peron-inetum-public · 2025-09-16T08:29:09Z

Restore and enable IAccessibleEx implementation.
Exposes new features of UI Automation to MSAA-based implementation.
Specifically usefull to expose AutomationId from SemanticsNode::identifier for UI test automation.

see #148763

Followup to #161955

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All existing and new tests are passing.

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This pull request restores and enables the IAccessibleEx implementation, which exposes new UI Automation capabilities to the MSAA-based accessibility implementation on Windows. Specifically, it adds an identifier to SemanticsNode to expose AutomationId for UI testing. The changes correctly plumb this new field through the accessibility bridge and update relevant documentation and tests. My review includes a minor correction for the updated documentation to improve its accuracy.

loic-peron-inetum-public · 2025-09-26T04:13:01Z

@loic-sharma could you review this updated PR ?

loic-sharma · 2025-10-08T22:49:08Z

@loic-peron-inetum-public Thanks for the pull request!

I'm a little concerned that this change might regress Flutter Windows's accessibility support in unexpected ways as a similar change to add UI Automation had caused unexpected problems.

Could you include details on how you verified this change? What scenarios did you test?

loic-peron-inetum-public · 2025-10-09T08:20:22Z

Regarding how we use and tests this proposal:

We are building an application targeting iOS and Windows. We automate black-box tests using Appium on both platform. We use a custom build of the flutter engine for Windows that includes the required PR to get Semantics::identifer to be exposed as AutomationId. The application is not evaluated on its accessibility for actual users.

Regarding UI Automation-related regressions:

I understand that switching to UI Automation required a full switch in the accessibility interface exposed by Flutter. It seems that IAccessibleEx is a way to extend IAccessible-based exposition with the additional capabilities offered by UI Automation, without jeopardizing existing baheviours.

What are the unexpected ways that triggered unexpected problems and regressed Flutter accessibility support during a previous attempt to switch to UI Automation ? How can I check them ?

loic-sharma · 2025-10-22T20:31:07Z

What are the unexpected ways that triggered unexpected problems and regressed Flutter accessibility support during a previous attempt to switch to UI Automation ? How can I check them ?

I would manually check that a sample Flutter Windows app still works well with JAWS, NVDA, and Windows Narrator. I'd make sure that as you tab around, the screen reader properly announces content, without any differences compared to today's implementation.

Could we de-risk this by making the IAccessibleEx implementation opt-in at runtime?

Flutter Windows's API has a DartProject that lets you configure your Flutter app. For example, you can configure which threads the apps uses (see this and this).

Could we update QueryService to only return an IAccessibleEx interface if the Flutter app turned on the IAccessibleEx feature?

Here's what this API might look like:

// Configures the accessibility implementation used by Flutter.
enum class AccessibilityMode {
  // Default value. Flutter will automatically select the best available
  // implementation.
  Default,
  // Use the IAccessible implementation.
  IAccessible,
  // Use the experimental IAccessibleEx implementation.
  IAccessibleEx,
};

class DartProject {
  // Sets the accessibility implementation used by Flutter.
  void set_accessibility_mode(AccessibilityMode accessibility_mode) {
    accessibility_mode_ = accessibility_mode;
  }
}

To opt-in to the IAccessibilityEx implementation, the app developer would need to modify their windows/runner/main.cpp file:

flutter::DartProject project(L"data");
project.set_accessibility_mode(flutter::AccessibilityMode::IAccessibleEx);

Then, QueryService would only return an IAccessibleEx interface if the app opted-in to AccessibilityMode::IAccessibleEx. What do you think of this approach?

loic-sharma · 2025-10-22T21:02:46Z

Note to self: these docs are an excellent resource to review this PR: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/winauto/implementing-iaccessibleex-for-providers

loic-peron-inetum-public · 2025-10-24T11:03:52Z

Could we de-risk this by making the IAccessibleEx implementation opt-in at runtime?

I will try and implement an engine-runtime configuration option in november.

Could this be enabled using an application-buildtime --dart-define= property ?

loic-sharma · 2025-10-24T16:43:20Z

Could this be enabled using an application-buildtime --dart-define= property ?

Sadly, no. The Windows embedder doesn't have an easy way to read Dart defines. The suggestion I left above means that the app developer will need to update the C++ code in their Flutter Windows entry point (example).

chinmaygarde · 2025-11-10T18:57:47Z

Is progress still being made on this?

loic-peron-inetum-public · 2025-11-14T09:05:22Z

Is progress still being made on this?

Hi, yes I still work on this, but I have little work-time currently allocated for this tack. I still work to map the way from DartProject to AXPlatformNodeWin at runtime.

Would it be acceptable to use a technical attribute in AXNodeData to represent IAccessibleEx activation on Windows ?

loic-sharma · 2025-11-17T23:35:04Z

Would it be acceptable to use a technical attribute in AXNodeData to represent IAccessibleEx activation on Windows ?

Could you say more about why you need this?

I think it's OK to add more data to AXNodeData, but I'll defer to @chunhtai on that.

chunhtai · 2025-11-17T23:43:32Z

Would it be acceptable to use a technical attribute in AXNodeData to represent IAccessibleEx activation on Windows ?

may I know what property you want to add? also is IAccessibleEx activation per node? if this is on/off for the entire app, I don't think we should use AXNodeData for this case.

…ect_bundle.h Co-authored-by: Matthew Kosarek <matt.kosarek@canonical.com>

loic-sharma

The tests look great - thanks for the excellent patch!

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@mattkae could you re-approve this PR? :)

mattkae

Still looks good to me!

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…5406) Restore and enable IAccessibleEx implementation. Exposes new features of UI Automation to MSAA-based implementation. Specifically usefull to expose AutomationId from SemanticsNode::identifier for UI test automation. see flutter#148763 Followup to flutter#161955 ## Pre-launch Checklist - [x] I read the [Contributor Guide] and followed the process outlined there for submitting PRs. - [x] I read the [Tree Hygiene] wiki page, which explains my responsibilities. - [x] I read and followed the [Flutter Style Guide], including [Features we expect every widget to implement]. - [x] I signed the [CLA]. - [x] I listed at least one issue that this PR fixes in the description above. - [x] I updated/added relevant documentation (doc comments with `///`). - [x] I added new tests to check the change I am making, or this PR is [test-exempt]. - [x] I followed the [breaking change policy] and added [Data Driven Fixes] where supported. - [x] All existing and new tests are passing. --------- Co-authored-by: Matthew Kosarek <matt.kosarek@canonical.com>

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