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Maven 3.8.x - EOL - #842

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I will review later today since I thought about this before doing the release.

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I think this is not enough. What we need to do is to advertise on dev@ and users@ that 3.8.x has reached its EOL and will be removed from the releases repository (ASF) and from the download page. This will give people time to react. I pretty much like how Apache Tomcat does this, they announce and then act a couple of months later. As we have seen as soon as it is removed from downloads.a.o it is unreachable. I don't want to break people stuff without letting them know first.
I think a sane date from would at least two months in the future, but if we calculate the summer vacation in 2025-10-03 is a good day since on a Friday less failures are expected.

WDYT?

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I think this is not enough. What we need to do is to advertise on dev@ and users@ that 3.8.x has reached its EOL and will be removed from the releases repository (ASF) and from the download page. This will give people time to react. I pretty much like how Apache Tomcat does this, they announce and then act a couple of months later. As we have seen as soon as it is removed from downloads.a.o it is unreachable. I don't want to break people stuff without letting them know first. I think a sane date from would at least two months in the future, but if we calculate the summer vacation in 2025-10-03 is a good day since on a Friday less failures are expected.

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Good idea, so, we first should send an email to dev, users , announce lists with information about plan:

  • remove from download page - documentation updates
  • remove from download.a.o
  • date of planed taks - like 2025-10-03 or even end of 2025-10

do you see any other steps?

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I agree on the communication on ML before.

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I think this is not enough. What we need to do is to advertise on dev@ and users@ that 3.8.x has reached its EOL and will be removed from the releases repository (ASF) and from the download page. This will give people time to react. I pretty much like how Apache Tomcat does this, they announce and then act a couple of months later. As we have seen as soon as it is removed from downloads.a.o it is unreachable. I don't want to break people stuff without letting them know first. I think a sane date from would at least two months in the future, but if we calculate the summer vacation in 2025-10-03 is a good day since on a Friday less failures are expected.
WDYT?

Good idea, so, we first should send an email to dev, users , announce lists with information about plan:

  • remove from download page - documentation updates
  • remove from download.a.o
  • date of planed taks - like 2025-10-03 or even end of 2025-10

do you see any other steps?

Yes, correct. My idea was first announce, two months later remove from the website and another month later from downloads.a.o. so end of Oct seems reasonable.

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We could remove old Maven versions from GH Ci right now to save time and resources.

About mail communication - we could simply say that it's EOL and will be removed from Apache dist downloads.
The proposed time looks good, but we could start removing references right after the announcement and only keep the dist area till the end.

Probably next question would be what is the minimal version of 3.9 that we support in plugin prerequisites.

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Message send: https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdyhw6mt6qhnbknpngpkj8s4ckx7s7xs

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Message send: https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdyhw6mt6qhnbknpngpkj8s4ckx7s7xs

Very good. To users@ as well?

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Message send: https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdyhw6mt6qhnbknpngpkj8s4ckx7s7xs

Very good. To users@ as well?

To: Maven Developers List <dev@maven.apache.org>, Maven Users List <users@maven.apache.org>
Cc: announce@maven.apache.org

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Message send: https://lists.apache.org/thread/gdyhw6mt6qhnbknpngpkj8s4ckx7s7xs

Very good. To users@ as well?

To: Maven Developers List <dev@maven.apache.org>, Maven Users List <users@maven.apache.org>
Cc: announce@maven.apache.org

Perfect

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Time has elapsed last mail announcements, so we are ready to merge

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LGTM. Make sure to remove from the distribution area. It will remain in the archive though.

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LGTM. Make sure to remove from the distribution area. It will remain in the archive though.

From distribution area will be removed in next month ... according to info in email

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LGTM. Make sure to remove from the distribution area. It will remain in the archive though.

From distribution area will be removed in next month ... according to info in email

Very good

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